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A lot of you will know Rac80 and her 'reputation' for giving negetive as a form of cyber bullying, well it seems she's started on me again, I got a "Same old same old" red rep from her again, so I named and shamed and called her out as a bully, knowing what she's done to elliecat and others, she sent me a pious little note calling me out for abusive postings, cheeky cow!!, I sweetly told her that at least I have the balls to call her out in public and not hide behind the posting system. She also said she had reported the post and the note I left her on her PS telling her what a poisonous bitch she is, so I replied by saying I was seeking out Darren's advice about how to deal with cyber bullies, because that is what she is. I don't like ranting and name calling but she really is a nasty piece of work behind the scenes and this is the only place I can vent without the Mod's circling.

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falcon_horus
Oct. 4th, 2008 02:47 pm (UTC)
Oh, great minds think alike... I was thinking of making a post where we could freely nail those pesky bullies on the wall without having our posts deleted.

Like I said before, I don't understand how they can get away with. How she can get away with such behavior? Ignore isn't just enough - something needs to be done about it. If the mod-squad keeps being this lacks, she'll just keep going at it. Her daughter, Snookie16, is also a GW member - what kind of an example does her mother set for her by being such an absolute intolerant bitch?

It's people like her that make GW a very unwelcome place to be.
reefgirluk
Oct. 4th, 2008 03:05 pm (UTC)
I've gone to Darren with this, I'm lead to understand the Mods can't or are unwilling to deal with this problem. It's not for me that I'm doing this, I'm a tough old bird with a hide like a rhino but it's the younger, more vunerable people that need something to be done. Bullying, be it cyber or playground follows the same pattern, they stay just inside what is acceptable behaviour so they cannot be accused of breaking the T&C or R&R, some youngster's are too scared to speak up for several reasons, the think they won't be believed because the poster is popular, or the Mod's won't take their complaint seriously because they think they are perceived as a troublemaker or they fear reprisal's from the bully's 'Gang'. I hope Darren takes this seriously and not bury his head in the sand going "LALALALALA can't hear you, bullying doesn't happen on my board".
falcon_horus
Oct. 4th, 2008 03:32 pm (UTC)
I fit into the category that is too afraid but when I'm pushed too far - that's when the little devil in me comes out to play. And I'm being pushed too far at the moment, attacking my friends is like attacking me and that's just something you don't do. Then my protective streak comes out as well.

You don't mess with the little lemming, cause there's a lion hidden inside. :p

I really hope Darren pays attention to it, cause otherwise it's going to get out of hand, if it isn't already.
reefgirluk
Oct. 4th, 2008 03:39 pm (UTC)
How out of hand is it?

I know elliecat has been recieving the brunt of it for a while and a couple of others have said they've been a victim of hers too

Thanks for being protective, Maybe we should start a protective group on GW, somewhere for members to go if they are under the impression they're being bullied
alyssa22
Oct. 4th, 2008 08:41 pm (UTC)
What disgusts me is that this is a 45 year old woman tormenting teenagers. I mean, how would she feel is someone did that to her daughter? She doesn't even contemplate that. Not only that, but she claims to be studying psychology or something, doesn't she? She's going to be the psychologist from hell if this is the way she treats people in real life.
reefgirluk
Oct. 4th, 2008 08:49 pm (UTC)
That is disgusting, I'd expect it from a teenager or even someone in their early 20's but a woman with a daughter of her own!!
falcon_horus
Oct. 4th, 2008 11:25 pm (UTC)
She's in law-school, with a minor in psychology, as far as I can tell. She has an LJ account with the same name. I googled her earlier today, to see if I could dig up something else about her....and she's a into Star Trek as well.

She's an enigma to me. How can someone like her, stoop so low and act the way she does? *shakes head* And let me tell you, she's the devil in disguise cause the assaults/insults are far from innocent ones
reiko_afterglow
Oct. 5th, 2008 03:05 am (UTC)
I did some digging. Her real name is Rachelle Hills. She says she is 46 years old on GateWorld. (I did a search). So she was born in 1962, and her birthdate checks out with the graduation listed at this Classmates.com profile as listed below:


http://www.alldanielfic.com/viewuser.php?uid=210&PHPSESSID=31adff6cf9cf212ceca9db1c3bca5af6 Where I found her real name.
http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=6224057 Classmates profile. Her age checks out with her Highschool graduation date. BYU, Psychology class of 1984. Purdue University, class of 2006.

I'm guessing she's from Indiana -- I have some evidence, but I'm checking into it.
reiko_afterglow
Oct. 5th, 2008 03:08 am (UTC)
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?p=8588215&highlight=indiana#post8588215

Yup. She's from Indiana. I cross-referenced her name with Indiana on GW. And the account on classmates is her. She says she grew up in New England, the region where MA is.

I'm rather curious about this article: http://www.topix.com/forum/indy/TL10PI9LOPDQEMPUL But I can't get access to it. >.<

Other than that, she doesn't seem like a fraud.
reiko_afterglow
Oct. 5th, 2008 02:25 am (UTC)
I have Snookie on ignore too, though she seems decent enough. I don't respond to her posts because I know Rac80 will probably show up sometime and ... yell at me some more, and though she's on ignore I just want to avoid the trouble.
falcon_horus
Oct. 5th, 2008 09:07 am (UTC)
I have had one conversation with Snookie and that was in the Sheppard/Weir thread about Teyla and Sparky. No more than three posts at the most, I think.

I see them as separate entities and if either wants to back the other one up, and gang up they'll have their asses reported and screencapped for proof. I am screencapping everything that is even remotely offensive or report-worthy. I have an entire conversation between Blencathra and Rac80 saved that if I report it won't make much of a difference.
falcon_horus
Oct. 4th, 2008 03:45 pm (UTC)
I know Reiko has had to deal with her + Blencathra seems to enjoy to join in once in a while. And B is in cahoots with Rac80 on many occasions, taking each other's back and enjoying the "bullying" in their profile pages. I didn't go back it but I did report an offensive note Rac80 made about the anti's (who happen to be my minions :p)... When I went back a day later or so it was still there. So ... *shrug*

Your post was deleted btw with the following message as a response:

Skydiver
Just a note, complaining about rep points received is off topic in ALL threads on this forum.

Oh, nevermind... I see you wandering around the thread.
reefgirluk
Oct. 4th, 2008 03:49 pm (UTC)
I saw that and I replied with a genuine question, I had a feeling Reiko had been on the end of it too, I've been looking back over my rep points I got messages from Jackie, Marielabbot and elliecat, so hopefully if enough noise is made others will come out. And it doesn't surprise me she has a 'Gang' bullies rarely work alone, most do it out of fear tho
falcon_horus
Oct. 4th, 2008 03:54 pm (UTC)
Maybe we should start a petition of sorts... Cause it's probably not just Rac80. I'm quite sure there are others like her who abuse that reputation system a little too much.

I don't know. A safe thread sounds like a great place, but how long before they find out about and come around trolling the place.
reefgirluk
Oct. 4th, 2008 03:58 pm (UTC)
I'll wait and see what Darren says, if he says anything and go from there, if he does start an investigation I'll point him in your direction and elliecat's as for a thread, not as such, one of the Social groups that's invitation only and moderated. I'll investigate that possibility
falcon_horus
Oct. 4th, 2008 03:59 pm (UTC)
I'll make sure to have a copy of everything I've seen around... you know, collect some proof.
reefgirluk
Oct. 4th, 2008 04:00 pm (UTC)
Thanks, I'll set up a moderated group and see what else we get
falcon_horus
Oct. 4th, 2008 07:46 pm (UTC)
If you want to know what B and R think of certain people (ie me (by name) and Reiko (not by name) and especially the anti's). I grabbed 4 pages of conversation from Rac80's profile page. I could report but it will just be considered spying.

I took screencaps and saved them to my computer. And will from now on do that with every single post I report (at least the ones from the gang).
reefgirluk
Oct. 4th, 2008 08:46 pm (UTC)
Thanks FH, I haven't heard back from Darren yet but I did ask elliecat if she was willing to tell Darren about what's been happening if he should ask for evidense and she's willing. From the sounds of things this has been running rampent for months if not years
falcon_horus
Oct. 5th, 2008 12:31 am (UTC)
Skydiver doesn't seem too happy with your Safe Haven, and has also replied to your question in the "Writing Blunders..."-thread, leaving the following message:

"we dont' police the rep system.

People can give red or green as they wish

the only thing we police are the comments left. If they break the rules, are insulting, calling names, etc, then we can mod the COMMENTS, just not the rep points themselves.

If someone needs more information, please contact a mod, let's get this thread back on topic please"

Sounds to me like there won't be any change in that system. If there isn't a comment or it doesn't say anything offensive it'll stick and nothing happens, and the redding pro's still get away with it.
reefgirluk
Oct. 5th, 2008 09:28 am (UTC)
I've seen that comment by Sky, I've told her that the abuse is quite widespread and that people I've spoken too think that the Mods can't or won't do anything about it. I'm beginning to think they know what's going on but are buring their heads in the sand and hoping it goes away. I still haven't heard from Darren and I'm beginning to think I won't, the thing is Sky is quite right, she is not breaking the rules but then bullies do stay withing R&R's but that doesn't mean to say that they should get away with it. As soon as I've got enough material I'll go to Major Clanger with it.
falcon_horus
Oct. 5th, 2008 09:37 am (UTC)
Ignoring the problem, doesn't make it go away... They should know that by now. Better to stay ahead of it (even if that's too late already).
reefgirluk
Oct. 5th, 2008 09:49 am (UTC)
I've decided not to bother waiting for Darren to get back to me, I've sent Major Clanger an outline of the problem and I'll wait for her to get back to me before I plan the next move, which is probably going to be sending her all the stuff I've got and heard from you guy's. How do you screencap FH?
falcon_horus
Oct. 5th, 2008 09:52 am (UTC)
Well, there's a button on my keyboard (upper right on my laptop) -> PrtSc, and I just press it and then I open photoshop, open a new window and paste. Then I cut the image to what I need.

I don't know about another way though. *blush*
reefgirluk
Oct. 5th, 2008 09:53 am (UTC)
Thanks, I've just found that button too
alyssa22
Oct. 4th, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
Darren hardly ever bothers to answer anyone.
reefgirluk
Oct. 4th, 2008 08:47 pm (UTC)
If he doesn't I'll take it all to Major Clanger, I know her very well from another forum and I trust her to be independant in this
alyssa22
Oct. 4th, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC)
Good plan. He just seems to not even care what goes on there.
reefgirluk
Oct. 4th, 2008 09:00 pm (UTC)
That is a very worrying prospect, no wonder bullying is rife if the Owner won't get involved
musing_mia
Oct. 4th, 2008 04:10 pm (UTC)
All opinions should be welcomed. That's what makes for interesting discussion. It's websites like this and TWoP that ruin it for everyone.

Sorry. Wish I could smack some sense into the Mods and Darren.
reefgirluk
Oct. 4th, 2008 04:15 pm (UTC)
I'm trying to gather as much information as possible on the extent of bullying on GW so I have a good case if Darren gets back to me, I'm not going to let this drop.
lady_xan
Oct. 6th, 2008 12:13 am (UTC)
Hi - I'm Irish Eyes on GW. I've got several people on my radar when it comes to the bullying on GW and Rac80 is one of them. I don't have much contact with her, but I've seen how she treats people. Yes, the mods should take care of the bullying, but like many of us, I've learned they won't. The last straw for me was when jenks was on probation, created a new account so he could still post/harass, ADMITTED IT, and they did nothing. He should have been banned IMO. The mods won't do anything.

We need some kind of underground group that helps out the people being bullied. If the mods can't do anything about the bullies because they are posting within the rules, we can do the same.

reefgirluk
Oct. 6th, 2008 07:11 am (UTC)
The good news, I think, is at last the Mods are beginning to take this seriously, Skydiver is looking into this after I blasted her about giving me a warning and taking all my reputation points off me for rallying against bullying. If you want to PM me with the details of what you know I'll pass it on. Please don't make it tittle tattle, I've only just got the mods to take me seriously and I'm walking a fine line now.
reefgirluk
Oct. 6th, 2008 09:11 am (UTC)
Weirdly enough my rep points are back, weird
lady_xan
Oct. 7th, 2008 03:36 am (UTC)
I think you know all the details from the latest incident between Rac / Falcon / Reiko. I was just on the sidelines and witnessed most of it. Anything else I know about is old at this point and no proof to boot so it's not worth bringing up. It's just nice that you might have the mods finally doing something.
reefgirluk
Oct. 7th, 2008 07:02 am (UTC)
I haven't heard anymore from Skydiver at the moment but I do know she's been in contact others that have been Rac80's victims
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